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Can’t wait for the ...Nice post with awesome points! Can’t wait for the next one.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.onlinemarket360.com/products/HP-%252d-13.3%22ProBook-Notebook-4-GB-Memory-%252d-320-GB-Hard-Drive.html/" title="HP - 13.3" rel="nofollow">HP - 13.3"ProBook Notebook 4 GB Memory - 320 GB Hard Drive</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05627239711981072542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-18630935320541359012010-08-25T21:31:29.439-07:002010-08-25T21:31:29.439-07:00Yes, this is true that the problem of increasing t...Yes, this is true that the problem of increasing tuition due to the decrease in state funding. and it should not happen for students and as well as for good professors, those who are transfered by ED. All other points like UC's proposal about online studies are good for all state wise.Research Term Papershttp://www.researchtermpapers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-16069663482733484722010-08-02T10:32:02.660-07:002010-08-02T10:32:02.660-07:00As long as the UC remains so expensive, transferri...As long as the UC remains so expensive, transferring in from community colleges is one of the only affordable ways for us less wealthy students to even attend the UC. Even after transferring in, the loans I still had to take out just to attend UC were ridiculous! Transfer students add a different reality to the UC that is far more the true character of California rather than the institution dominated by the educationally and economically privileged elite it is.<br />I also question the cost shifting onto the backs of the hyper-exploited TA's and Lecturers you seem to be supportive of in this post.<br />But, conclusion well taken... Jerry Brown's higher education plan ain't all that to celebrate. But it sure beats Meg Whitman's anti-union, anti-poor plans!Duane Ahmadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-65313254655133907612010-08-01T09:49:22.718-07:002010-08-01T09:49:22.718-07:00The question of transfer students touches on one o...The question of transfer students touches on one of the central misconceptions regarding university budgets. In the UC system, lower-division courses are the largest and are taught mostly by relatively inexpensive lectures and grad students. These lower-division courses, which transfer students do not have to take, deliver low-cost student credit hours. In fact, since each undergrad brings in $10,000 in tuition and fees and $14,000 from the state, and the average lower-division yearly instructional cost per student is about $4,000, the UC makes about $20,000 per student that goes to pay for research, administration, and everything else. If you lower the number of lower-division students, you starve your cash cow.<br /><br />While most of a department’s budget is usually determined by the number of full-time tenured faculty, the only way to increase a budget is to teach more students, and the cheapest way to instruct more students is to use non-tenured faculty in large lower-division courses. Unless the tenured faculty want to start teaching more classes and concentrate on lower-division instruction, they need to find a way to support having more lower-division students. <br /><br />Another issue is that as the UC takes on more students through transfer, it tells the state that the community colleges provide the same level of educational quality as the University of California, and therefore, there is no reason to fund the community college students at $4,000 a year, while the UC students get $14,000 a year from the state. There is also the question of determining if the community college students are ready to excel at a research university after being taught at a non-research institution.Bob Samuelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690556733943299895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-32276596991089542642010-07-31T23:00:37.958-07:002010-07-31T23:00:37.958-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-5921070269407006412010-07-30T21:52:55.588-07:002010-07-30T21:52:55.588-07:00As Emeritus, this makes no sense to me:
"I...As Emeritus, this makes no sense to me: <br /><br />"Increasing the number of transfer students will only decrease the funding of the university since most of the UC’s profit is made from lower-division, high-enrollment courses that transfer students do not have to take. Of course ... Brown ... does not actually understand how the UC makes its money ..."<br /><br />Brown is running for Gov, not UC Prez. He wants to save the State money. Unless UC's "profit ... from lower-division, high-enrollment courses" comes from a non-State source, there is every reason for him to reduce it. I think most of Edley's proposals are lousy, but increasing the numbers of transfer students is not, in principle. The objection is that many transfer courses, like many AP courses, are not good and their grades don't reliably indicate capacity for Upper Division work at UC, and there have been no proposals to evaluate or improve them. If the transfer courses were good, UC should eagerly encourage students (especially low income) to pursue this route, while working VERY hard to articulate these courses with UC's UD courses.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14364441100866603888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2019815289138218075.post-84900230890682292882010-07-29T11:36:00.305-07:002010-07-29T11:36:00.305-07:00Bob, why don't you see if you can become Brown...Bob, why don't you see if you can become Brown's higher ed advisor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com